| Comment |
Callsign |
| It is truly unfortunate that ARRL has decided to ignore the eQSLs of over 37000 hams around the world. Our eQSLs are more trustworthy than any printed card. |
N5UP
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| Not surprised about ARRLs reactions to eQSLs forDXCC etc . Old fogies die hard |
(anonymous)
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| Explain to me again how a card printed and mailed by eQSL.cc is somehow any different than one mailed by a DX station or his QSL manager? |
(anonymous)
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| I'm an ARRL member. After reading the Logbook of the World spec and reading the progress reports, I doubt that it will ever see the light of day. |
(anonymous)
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| Why would anyone forge a QSL? It would be easier to print a DXCC certificate if you want it that bad |
(anonymous)
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| I have already email the officers of the ARRL with my comments on this subject. It is sad but they just don't seem to what to even try and work out a compromise. eQSL is my QSL route of choose. |
WA0KDS
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| I believe ARRL should accept eQSL cards, and I hope other hams make their feelings known. I am an ARRL member. |
K4MG
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| It all comes down to time and money.. it can take a year for some dx countrys to arrive, and at that we have to pay postage both ways most of the time. To me eQSL seems to be completely forge proof while my wj2o logging program printed out |
K1FAL
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| is acceptable. I can print millions of cards via the wj2o but none via eQSL.. Come on arrl get with the program. if qst subscribers quit you get no $$ to pay your salary etc. Think |
K1FAL
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| about it seriously . I care not where I obtain a dcxx award so the route of choice would be eQSL. |
K1FAL
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| QST is nice to read but not your dictitorial forcing of qsl choice..!!! |
K1FAL
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| eQSLs are JUST AS REAL as those which are printed the old fashioned way. I see NO REASON why eQSLs SHOULD NOT be accepted. There is NO EXCUSE for this!!! Please reconsider. |
KB0OXD
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| If contest results take a year to process, awards take many months...can we SERIOUSLY expect any movement on the ARRL "Logbook of the World" initiative? |
K2AXX
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| Of Couse Eqsl are relliable, the question, I think, is a matter of $$$. It makes the world go around.To N5UP, my best support. |
CT3EE
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| From a financial standpoint, I'd believe MORE people would spend $$ with the ARRL trying to cash eQSL cards into DXCC, VUCC, WAS, etc. Instead, reinventing the wheel (or punishing someone who invented it BEFORE them) is their solution. Sad. |
K2AXX
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| From a financial standpoint, I'd believe MORE people would spend $$ with the ARRL trying to cash eQSL cards into DXCC, VUCC, WAS, etc. Instead, reinventing the wheel (or punishing someone who invented it BEFORE them) is their solution. Sad. |
K2AXX
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| The IRS allows many 3rd party companies to develop tax software for electronic filing of taxes, and allows them to charge for their services. I would hate to the ARRL spend some of its scarce resources to develop the eQSL solution when the |
AA3NJ
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| solution is so close at hand. In fact, when a certified DX station submits it's logs through eQSL and eQSL receives a matching entry from a second station, I fail to see a problem with authentication. It would in fact be even more secure |
AA3NJ
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| and authentic than a hard copy produced by an eQSL service. |
AA3NJ
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| The ARRL would still have the perogative to reject individual entries on the basis of improper authentication. I would bet that a small number of invalid and forged QSLs get through the current DXCC process. I think the question is, |
AA3NJ
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| would a greater or lesser number get through the eQSL process. I think the answer is no, because of the greater sophistication required to forge an eQSL compared to a paper QSL. Why doesn't the ARRL require to see the matching logs of all |
AA3NJ
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| DX contacts, as it seems that that would be the only way it could verify to as high a degree as it is demanding of an eQSL service. My point is that this eQSL service can provide at least as high a level of authenticity as currently |
AA3NJ
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| exists, and provide it at less cost than the hard-mail. |
AA3NJ
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| I bank and pay bills on-line, I pay income taxes on-line, I shop on-line, I trade stocks on-line. I applied for Social Security on-line and am now receiving a monthly check. I have no digital certificates. You think far too much of DXCC. |
W3ZJ
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| ARRL is completely free to determine the qsl criteria for its own awards. And face it, eQSL.CC is a direct commercial competitor of ARRL's LOTW. Like most businesses, market forces will ultimately decide the fate of each organization. |
N7XB
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| The ARRL has been talking about their LOTW for a long time. Lots of talk--no action. Why can't the league admit someone else beat them to the punch on truly honest e-QSLing? Greed ? ? ? |
KR4BD
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| This will save lots of postage! Get on the bandwagon! |
WA3QWA
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| This is going to happen with or without the ARRL. We's prefer your support. eQSL is secure enough. It's a HOBBY for heaven's sake!!! |
VE2DC
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| Considering the pseudo-QSO's I hear on the bands all the time, some perspective is needed. |
VE2DC
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| "QSL 55".. 3rd party:"No!".."QSL 56".."No!".."QSL 57".. "Hey, good contact!"... |
VE2DC
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| VE2DC, ARE YOU REFERING TO THE 3905 CENTURY CLUB ?? |
K1FAL
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| I think that people at our ARRL have fallen in love with their procedures. |
K8NQC
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| Only a troubled person would feel pride in an unearned award. Make rules for the healthy. |
K8NQC
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| It is a hobby!! Lighten up and enjoy it. Other people don't care. |
K8NQC
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| With today's equipment available around the world, DX is no longer a big deal. |
K8NQC
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| Treating DXCC as a major accomplishment is only contrived satisfaction. |
K8NQC
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| I randomly asked ten ARRL users of eQSL which best met their needs. eQSL 100% |
K8NQC
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| There will always be a cheat but I can't believe that a cheated DXCC provides any real satisfaction for anyone. In any rare case that a cheat forges my QSL it won't reduce my satisfaction in using this very fine eQSL system. Amateur Radio i |
VK3BGH
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| There will always be a cheat but I can't believe that a cheated DXCC provides any real satisfaction for anyone. In any rare case that a cheat forges my QSL it won't reduce my satisfaction in using this very fine eQSL system. Amateur Radio i |
VK3BGH
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| Electronic QSling is popular as can be seen by the numbers. Electronic checking of suspected forgeries etc can be checked immediately. No delay. it is time for ARRL to get modern. The cost of mailing regular QSL's is now too expensive. |
VE6VK
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| I am very sad, hearing that ARRL is not willing to accept EQSL. Use of computer and digital mail is the future of the world and people not willing to accept this disqualify themselves. Hope they will revise decision. |
HB9ABX
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| Come'on ARRL, get with the future - you're hurting yourself! |
W2QNE
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| I also am a long time ARRL member, can't understand why they feel that every licensed ham that receives/sends a QSL card is all of a sudden going to become dishonest, if it wasn't for the magazine I'd drop ARRL like a hot rock. |
KE9PH
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| ARRL do you have a reason ( excuse ) for not putting this matter to the membership and then work out the mechanics with eQSL.cc, or is it just when you get some dumb hairbrained idea from one of the big donation boys ? |
KE9PH
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| Don't be like the Post Office Department and hold onto a procedure even when it's time has long ago bit the dust, bury the antiquated "BURRO" and get a "CYBER SPACE vehicle" |
KE9PH
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| eQSLing is more secure and efective for DXers. GACW is using Verify QSO procedure to control eQSL database for our Awards. Will be very interesting to know why the ARRL is discriminating my eQSLs. |
LU1DZ
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| of course the league's award programs are their business to run as they see fit, but was it necessary to jerk eqsl [and their subscribers] around for so long? they could have just said no from the beginning, and saved a lot of anxiety. |
W3HND
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| The democratic way is to put it to the members. Let them decide. Logbook of the world is no substitute. My call is on other comments. |
(anonymous)
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| I am Awards Mgr for Calgary Communications Club. We ACCEPT EQSL's. If I am suspicious I can send an email or I can use the telephone It is easy as that. VE6RH is our club call.It kis not necessary to have a 3rd party print EQSL's. |
VE6VK
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| Hq ARRL, |
K5FOZ
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| Hq ARRL - As a member of ARRL, I am very disapppointed that ARRL and E-QSL.CC could not agree on how to accept eQSL Card's for ARRL Awards. |
K5FOZ
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| I think that the arrl is not going with his time , they have to learn that the way of qsl are changing |
PA0BDW
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| Having worked well over 100 countries on six mtrs and got over 100confirmed why do I a GW need the ARRL. |
GW8ASA
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| Very disappointed in your decision to reject E-QSL cards for ARRL rewards! |
KA7ETU
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| I no longer use the 7land bureau for cards. Only EQSl |
KC7UP
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| Please give me a break! I like hard cards but I fail to get the point about cheating. If there is a will there is a way. Basicly I am insulted by the ARRL..A LIFE MEMBER. |
K0COP
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| I HAVE SOLVED THE CHEATING PROBLEM AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED. WHEN ON THE AIR I LOG EACH QSO IN MY WJ2O LOG PROGRAM AND PRINT IT OUT THEN LOG THEM INTO EQSL. I'M SATISFIED.. DUPLICATION IS OF NO CONCERN WITH ME. |
K1FAL
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| HARD CARDS HA. WHERE ARE MOST OF THEM? IN A SHOE BOX?? |
K1FAL
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| Why ARRL will reject eQSLs???Or there are not a lot of good paper cards that can be "buyed" in the market for a couple of bucks??????? |
(anonymous)
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| Sounds really as a DISCRIMINATING action |
LU6Z
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| It's time to get out of the dark ages. I'm not going to spend a lot of money with QSL's. I think it's stupid |
KB9JD
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| Sure electronic systems can be hacked, I can almost guarantee that someone will hack the LOTW. But frankly, its not as though DXCC comes with a $1000 check. Its a certificate that just symbolizes personal satisfaction and nothing more. |
KE4USA
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| Times are changing, we also must change with them, postage due to increase also. |
(anonymous)
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| Sounds like maybe ARRL has a deal with USPS? lol |
KD1XH
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| i think the ARRL has shot themselves in the foot again. They are all going to relize someday that they have forced the hobby not to grow. Get with the 21st century and come down from the Ivory Tower |
N2FPJ
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| The decision to NOT accept eQSL's means less time and less money for the individual ham to spend on the hobby. |
KA1MM
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| The league should cooperate with other ham groups to further the hobby, not work against them. Some barriers to making our hobby grow have been eased. Lets us not leave others in place. |
KA1MM
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| given the power of arrl even I would become a dictatorial nazi.. Or is arrl placing themselves above logic |
(anonymous)
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| It must suck to be an award cheater, but even worse to block the future for fear someone might cheat. My personal satisfaction comes from working for the award. EQSL.CC works for me. |
(anonymous)
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| I have always backed ARRL fully, but on this it is time you get your head out of the sand, and come into the real world as it is today. Why should we have to pay postage both ways and wait so long for a QSL. Change or I will. |
KE4BIN
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| Your position re eQSLs is ludicrous. Time to join the real world. |
W6UDX
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| The ARRL changed the world with no code now they refuse to recognize eqsl. Help us keep the time and cost down of DXing!! |
N9GZ
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| I see arrl is back to old tricks! If we don't think of it first then is't no good. signed soon to be a past member. |
(anonymous)
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| This is very good, neat and nice , Keep it up. |
VU3PAI
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| I can't see why these are not excepted? I find it easier for me to keep a running log and to send a confirmation at the same time as I enter it in the LOG. They print out on any stock paper that you want. |
N9JIU
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| Shame Shame Shame on ARRL. But I guess that's par for a bunch of wanabe bureaucrats protecting a revenue stream. |
N4KIT
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| The ARRL is not the only awards issuer in town. The QRP ARCI DXCC means far more to me as a QRP op and they accept eQSL's. |
K9WIS
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| I am surprised this 'log book of the world' thing hasn't gotten all the Big Brother and One World Government folks going. Isn't nice to know the ARRL want to know who your talking to and when!!! |
(anonymous)
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| If electronic submission by LOTW is acceptable, then EQSL should be also. |
(anonymous)
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| i suppose it's their award so they can make the rules - but it does seem a bit narrow minded |
G0THY
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| ARRL!!! PAY ATTENTION.. THERE ARE NOW 15 MILLION USERS OF eQSL |
K1FAL
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| THAT SHOULD BE A WAKE UP CALL FOR YOU TO ACCEPT OR LOSE YOUR MEMBERSHIP |
K1FAL
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| As an ARRL member, I'm certainly dissapointed that ARRL will not accept eQSL's. So, since they won't support eQSL's for their awards, I'm not supporting their award system. I'll be perfectly satisfied with the awards offered by eQSL.cc. |
K4KEV
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| We are always asking where the new hams will come from. We stress over the fact that computers and cellphones seem to negate the need or fun of amateur radio. Here is a real opportunity to wed computers to our hobby. The cost of qsling |
KE2FE
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| We are always asking where the new hams will come from. We stress over the fact that computers and cellphones seem to negate the need or fun of amateur radio. Here is a real opportunity to wed computers to our hobby. The cost of qsling |
KE2FE
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| the standard postal method has gone through the roof. It is too expensive to get the dx card needed. |
KE2FE
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| the standard postal method has gone through the roof. It is too expensive to get the dx card needed. |
KE2FE
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| If you wanted some phoney qsl cards, visit any hotel in Dayton during Hamvention. Hams post their qsl cards outside their hotel doors. Just pick em clean. |
KE2FE
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| You must be kidding. eQSL is a fun and convenient service. ARRL, I love you, but GET WITH THE PROGRAM! |
W2CYK
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| EQSL has gone to enough lengths to make it safe to accept eqsl's Maybe as ARRL member we should ONLY vote in officials in favor of taking EQSL's ! s we should ONLY vote in those offic |
W1CBI
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| You MUST rethink this...... ARRL don't be so closed minded |
KB5TNP
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| The ARRL lives for the past and not the furture! Expand your minds and lose the pride. You hurt too many people with foolish pride. |
(anonymous)
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| Working together is what this hobby is about. Let go of the past and work together to make eQSL and LBOW one great ave. for DXCC |
DA1PJ
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| Prices for the Postal way are outragous! Sending 5 just cost me $7.80 that is crazy! |
(anonymous)
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| As an ARRL life member, I would like to see a joint venture of eQSL and LBOTW. Everyone would benefit. |
W5HNK
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| Get off the oxcart and move into the 21st century. Ever wonder why you are loosing league members. I worry about my banks computers or NORADS computers being hacked than having a qsl card falsified GET REAL!! |
W3MEL
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| The attitude of the ARRL seems to be if it wasn't invented here then it isn't a good thing. LOTW will have the same issues. |
KI4RO
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| I have been a member of ARRL for years and they always seems to be well behind the power curve. |
KI4RO
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| If a person wants to forge a card, they will...period. No amount of "security" is going to stop that. |
KI4RO
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| PUT IT TO THE MEMBERSHIP...LET US DECIDE!!! |
KI4RO
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| I AM ADAMENTLY IN FAVOR OF EQSLING.IT COSTS NOTHING IS FAST AND ACCURATE.THEY SHOULD BE ACCEPTED FOR ALL ARRL AWARDS.IF THE ARRL "MANAGEMENT" DOESNT HAVE THE INTESTINAL FORTITUDE TO AUTHORIZE THEM,LET THE MEMBERSHIP VOTE ON IT! I AMA LIFER |
K7NEX
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| If you had to be a member of ARRL to use E-qsl.cc, bet there wouldn't be a problem! |
KF5ER
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| The ARRL's non-acceptance of e-QSL is fool hardy & just a deterent to the ARS. The ARRL reasons are not valid and seem to be pure "stonewalling". Put it to a member vote. |
W1DMM
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| If the ARRLis concerned about forged QSL cards, maybe they ought to rethink the purpose of QSLing. I do eQSL as well as the mail QSL but prefer eQSLs. If someone really wants to cheat, it makes NO difference what mode is used to QSL.. |
KL7IPV
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| The ARRL needs to wake up and join the 21st Century. |
K4RKQ
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| QSL's cards,ARRL in the USA ! the USA was built on Freedom, Let us use EQSL also, not monopoly of just ARRL . |
KG4GIQ
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| The last official pronouncement from the ARRL was that there was no change in policy. If there is now a change in policy, it should be posted on your web site and in QST. I urge you to reconsider and allow eQSL for DXCC. |
KT3D
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| 15.2 million eQSLs from 241 Countries Now Online!.... what more else to say ? |
F5DTK
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| Please consider accepting eQSL's. I might actually apply for some ARRL awards then. Seems like its just as easy to fabricate paper QSL's, so why not? |
WA7JTM
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| Postage costs are going to kill the ARRL awards program. It's just to costly to collect cards the "old Way" these days. |
WA7JTM
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| We knew since the beginning that ARRL would protect their old business again any effective and costless qsl operation. I will sonn get my # 300 DXCC confirm with regular qsl but I won't submit them to ARRL till they also accept e-qsl! |
VE2QRA
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| all you arrl members should cancel membership and watch the fur fly then |
(anonymous)
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| At last, the question will be e-qsl or NO qsl... |
F5AGB
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| As an ARRL Anual Member I think it is a shame the way they treated eQSL.cc. They seem to have the not invented here problem some large corporations are prone to. I am not a paper chaser but I do enjoy QSL cards and eQSL.cc does it cheaply. |
WB0YDI
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| COME ON NOW GANG. HAM RADIO IS A FRATERNITY OF PEOPLE MAKING FRIENDS ON THE AIR |
(anonymous)
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| AND A GROUP OF PEOPLE NEVER MEETING FACE T FACE BECOMING GREAT FRIENDS. IF AN AWARD IS AN ACCOMPLISHMENT OF THIS ENDEAVOUR SO BE IT. WHO CARES FROM WHERE THE AWARD COMES FROM. LETS DIVORCE ARRL AND LET THEM GO BANCKRUPT. |
(anonymous)
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| I WILL ONLY ACCEPT eQSL FROM THIS POINT ON AND WORK FOR THE AWARDS eQSL OFFERS. LETS HAVE AN eQSL RAG CHEWERS WAS STATE CAPS. WAS , AND ALL THE OTHER AWARDS THAT ARRL THINKS IS ONLY THEIR DOMAIN. |
(anonymous)
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| GREAT JOB DAVE KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. INCOPERATE AND PATENT ALL YOUR ENDEAVOURS. I SHALL NOW DONATE WHAT I CAN AFFORD AT THIS TIME BEING 68 AND ON A PENSION. $20.00 COMING YOUR WAY.. FRED!!! |
(anonymous)
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| Very dissapointed in ARRL decission, seems unreasonable to me |
WA4MIT
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| eQSL's have all the same information as any other. They SHOULD be accepted by the ARRL. |
KB8ZUZ
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| i\m ham from 1955, qslcard are expesive. but now is cheap, fast ,sure 100% and fun ,WHY not???don't forget we are in 2002!!! : ) |
LU9LC
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| I left the ARRL 4 years ago because of nonsense like this. They no longer represent the ham community, but their own agenda & wallets. OH>.and ads from gay radio groups...what's sex got to do with ham radio...ask the ARRL! |
W9RAT
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| I think you should reconsider this and accept eqsl's, get off your HIGH HORSE and open your mind. Listen to the hams!!! If I wasn't a Life member now I would QUIT the ARRL!!! Maybe Wayne Green was RIGHT in the past about your organization! |
W1DYH
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| I think you should reconsider this and accept eqsl's, get off your HIGH HORSE and open your mind. Listen to the hams!!! If I wasn't a Life member now I would QUIT the ARRL!!! Maybe Wayne Green was RIGHT in the past about your organization! |
W1DYH
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| If you are worried by the efforts of a small (super service) to the world ham community... buy them out and stamp "ARRL" on it... your "reasons" just don't hold water! |
VE7BZC
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| THE RATE EQSL IS GROWING IT WILL BUY OUT ARRL !!! PROBABLY SHOULD ANYWAY.. |
(anonymous)
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| I'm on a buget this way is better, then the several hundred dollars for stamps,cards and green stamps or IRC and the other cost of chasing paper. |
K7PZ
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| eQSL is good and so is the ARRL's system. It's the ARRL's awards program and if they choose to use their own system, so be it. You don't have to play in their sandbox if you don't want to. Relax.. use the one you like, and decompress!!. |
K3FT
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| As a fairly new member of the ARRL, I'm very disappointed in the way this organization is not adapting to technology. Don't know if I can continue to $upport you. |
KE4KLD
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| I support ARRL and always will...But, they're wrong on eQSL, we're in the 21st century gentlemen, let's get with the eQSL program |
W0ZPE
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| I HEREBY TENDER MY RESIGNATION FROM ARRL UNTIL YOU HAVE THE INTEGRETY TO WAKE UP TO REALITY.!!! |
K1FAL
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| COME ON NOW EVERYONE SHOW HOW BRAVE YOU REALLY ARE |
K1FAL
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| Another reason that I dropped my ARRL membership. Cost is the other one. I am linving on Social Security and a small VA pension and your latest increase made me drop my mmebership. |
N8MOK
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| I bank, pay my bills and use email daily but you can't trust my DX contacts. COME ON |
N8MOK
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| This is a hobby, and qsl cards don't have to be transmitted with the same level of security of electronic funds transfers. I feel eQSL.cc has done an excellent job. |
K1LHO
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| Radio dealers and manufacturers attribute the resurgence in shortwave radio sales to new listeners who are already wired to the internet. My advice is to carefully consider decisions which may alienate the next generation of DXers. |
WA4006SWL
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| Why doesn't the ARRL just put it to a vote, and quit deciding for everyone |
WO7T
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| Let's forego the ARRL, get the ham manufacturers with very professional and glitzy awards behind the DX, Zones, and other type awards. With postage saved, hams will buy more gear, and they can make something more elaborate to hang up |
(anonymous)
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| lets all write arrl a letter demanding a membership vote. Good idear anonymous manufacturers might love the idea. bye bye arrl |
K1FAL
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| Awards are most fabulos if is very hard to obtain it ! eQSL.cc open a "shortcut" and that scarry ARRL ! |
YO8RBU
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| If ARRL gets there "Log Book of the World" up and running I'm not going to use it. I encourage all other to Boycott it and use eQsl. |
KD7KST
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| I think eQSL is the fastest and cheapest way of sending and receiving qsl cards. If someone wants to cheat they can do that also with the paper qsl cards so for me this not an argument for not accepting eQSL for DXCC. |
ON4FG
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| The solution that eQSL proposed looks good enough for me! This is a hobby: where is the HAM Spirit? |
ON4FG
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| I am pleased I dont need the short sighted decisions of the arrl to enjoy the HOBBY of ham radio and the use of an enjoyable and first class service to amateurs. |
G0RQL
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| I SHALL WORK FOR DXCC AND PRINT MY OWN AWARD SO WHO NEEDS ARRL?? |
(anonymous)
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| It amazes me that ARRL doesnt treat eQSL like any other QSL manager |
N2CJN
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| eQSL is very good service congratulation N5UP for your very good work |
F4CTJ
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| ARRL provides many valuable services for amateur radio but inventing an inferior system of confirming QSO's is not one of them. Keep doing what you do well and make a good faith effort to find a way to accept eQSLs. |
WK5I
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| ARRL provides many valuable services for amateur radio but inventing an inferior system of confirming QSO's is not one of them. Keep doing what you do well and make a good faith effort to find a way to accept eQSLs. |
WK5I
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| very very much regret ARRL could not see this opportunity. ITS the new world and eWSL has done so much to work with the arrl I am a member of arrl and will continue them but this was an error |
W4RTE
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| wen meny ham's out your cals is ,and going @call,it is curius ARRL position;i'm om from 1969 an and i'm keep doing you and make a good faith "for my and menny's om's" effort to finds a wey to accept eQSL and the futurs... |
F5IYQ
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| Some people refuse to accept the fact that it's now the 21st century. What makes the current hardcopy and mail system so secure? Tons of business involving many, many $$$$$ are transacted on the internet everyday! |
KD0GS
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| As an ARRL member, I am very discouraged by ARRL's leadership position in not accepting eQSLs for award purposes. This is a HOBBY and for many of us enjoyment in making QSOs. My experience with QSL cards is if I don't send a SASE - forget |
AC7IF
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| it. Is the ARRL just for the leadership folks or does it belong to the ham community. The ARRL leadership has not conducted any polls of the membership to see if they feel eQSLs should be acceptable for awards, why not? |
AC7IF
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| ARRL, your decision to ban eQSLs makes me ASHAMED to be a member! I joined ARRL to support my hobby and; until now, I have never been disappointed for doing so. STOP ACTING IN YOUR OWN SELF-INTEREST |
NG5E
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| AND ACT IN THE INTEREST OF AMATEUR RADIO! |
NG5E
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| At last something refreshing and interesting comes along and makes very good sense and for some reason does not measure up to ARRL standards. I understand the concern for maintaining accuracy and validaty however, I do not understand |
AE4GN
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| the actions of the staff to reject eQSL's positive input to the HAM culture. I have determined that eQSL is the preferred method of exchanging QSLs for the future. ARRL please reconsider your stand, for the members sake. |
AE4GN
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| I have been a ham operator for 45 years and I thought ARRL always had my interest in mind. I have seen ultra conservatism turn to conservative, to sed now back to just plain old stupid. Do think we would go to eQSL for fun. |
KB5FE
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| ARRL RECONSIDER YOUR TAKE ON THIS BEFORE YOU LOSE YOUR ECONOMIC BASE OF SUPPORT FROM THE HAM COMMUNITY. |
KB5FE
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| I AM IN FAVOR OF eQSL.CC ISSUE THERE OWN VERSION OF DXCC . CALL IT eQSLDXCC BECAUSE THE REST OF THE WORLD WOULD SUPPORT IT. |
KB5FE
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| PS I AM ALSO ON UNCLE SUGAR'S SOCIAL SECURITY. HE DOGGIES |
KB5FE
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| Again the ARRL shows basic reluctance to change. Whats New? The suggestion the the league represents mainstream Ham radio as a hobby is laughable! To heck with their award programs! |
W1IPL
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| Hams have always been on the cutting edge of electronics. Funny, but the organization that is supposed to promote that is desperately holding on to the past. I could care less whether you people at ARRL know whether I worked a station or no |
KG0YE
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| Your method of QSLing has not changed in how many years ? Yet bill paying,banking,etc has advanced. With todays printers we could easily make fake cards...it would much harder to counterfit eCards. |
W7RTX
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| Although I have never applied for an ARRL award in 35 years of hamming, it would be nice to have my eQsls qualify if I chose to do so. As an ARRL member I urge the league to re-think their position on this subject. |
N5RL
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| This is really overkill for a hobby. This method is really just as secure as the "traditional" one and many of us use this form of "commerce" in our real lives with no problem. |
AC5RI
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| By not accepting eQSLs ARRL will nudge itself right out of the QSL business. eQSL works and is proven so why not accept it? |
AH6P
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| I've had the cards to qualify for DXCC for years. Why haven't I sent them in? I was afraid they'd lose them. The cheaters will always be with us; why punish me for being honest? |
NN4DF
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| eQSL's are the way to go, especially for the overseas hams where postage is high, mail is slow, and it's a financial effort just to get on the air. Besides, I know how many countries I've worked; I don't need the ARRL to "certify" that ... |
NN4DF
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| Is that an Ostrich with it’s head in the sand? No it’s the ARRL. No change there then. ;-) |
G8VHB
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| I bought a new car over the Internet. I select and purchase books and more everyday over the Internet. Now here is a SURPRISE! I can’t send my eQSL’s to the ARRL as it is obviously not secure enough. |
G8VHB
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| Who is that with white knuckles! Why it’s the ARRL holding on to the past. Now I must go and dig out my old spark generator, where’s Marconi when I need him. |
G8VHB
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| It is becoming obvious that the only real reason for the ARRL position is $$$. If you dont believe it takes $$ to get in the big league just read this link http://www.ve3ho.com/ve3ho-qslmgr.htm#vp6di |
W5UHQ
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| This is one more reason that I am not a member of the ARRL. If you don’t have a lot of money to send them than they show a deaf ear to you. They are not the voice of all Hams as they seem to think they are. Maybe more of us (Hams) should cu |
KB7VOO
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| Maybe more of us (Hams) should cut the hand that feeds it. Change in the ARRL, you got to be kidding. Ha |
KB7VOO
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| It's a sad day that all Hams can't work together ARRL |
KB7VOO
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| Who in ARRL wrote this dissertation "Logbook of the World"? Wow! You need to be a Ph |
N9HT
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| Who in ARRL wrote this dissertation "Logbook of the World"? Wow! You need to be a Philadelphia lawyer to go throughn it all. It is so complex, no Amateur would ever want to use it!! eQSL is simple and honest. All that any Ham needs! |
N9HT
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| Please change your policy regarding eQSL. Just because the ARRL didn't invent the technology doesn't mean it is bad. Look at the number of people using this system and you will see that it is highly effective and makes qsl'ing so easy |
N5JFG
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| ARRL, Please keep up with us Hams! Modern days things move much faster! E-QSL Please!!! |
WD5DPW
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| I am a Life Member of the ARRL, but I say this: eQSL.cc, STOP trying to make the ARRL happy, Take the lead and just give your own awards for DXCC. If the ARRL choose to believe that a paper QSL is more "real" or more "secure", let them! |
KD3V
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| If I want, I can forge the "real" cards as easy as an e-qsl card. So what's the fuss about? A good scanner, graphics program, and laser printer, and we're all set to go. |
W4ZYD
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| You want to talk about "hacking" a database, and setting yourself up with DXCC? Well, why not drive across town, "borrow" a friend's cards, and convert them to my call? Same thing. What keeps me from doing this is my own integrity, and I |
W4ZYD
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| will bet that most ham's feel this way. The other's will cheat anyways. As alway's respective organizations reserve the right to do log checking, which they should at least once in an amatuers life of submitting for awards. A few dollars |
W4ZYD
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| to do this, but it should be done at least once, so everyone knows that at some point they will be audited. That "really" keeps everyone honest..HI HI. We all need to advocate eqsl in every mail we send, try to get the member base high |
W4ZYD
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| enough to force ARRL to recognize our needs. The rising cost of postage, and the long wait times for the bureau's should start to be phased out. It's all about money, you and I both know it. So maybe e-qsl can start charging a 10 dollar a |
W4ZYD
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| year fee for each member, of which ARRL receives 7.50? Think that would make everyone happy? Including us...HI HI. Just some thoughts, from the Springbok Chapter International Web Manager, which does accept e-qsl btw. Til then, 73, Mike |
W4ZYD
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| It has become too costly to qsl the "old" way. ARRL, wake up and "service" your members desires. |
VA7KR
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| "Encapsulated digital signature"? If I wanted DXCC that bad, I would print my own certificate! |
W5WJP
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| ARRL, shame on you! Listen to your members, accept eQSL.cc for DXCC credit now! |
K2KJ
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| I believe it's time the ARRL realize it is not the only choice, or voice, for the amateur community. We now have options other than your organization. Like many others, I am a eQSL only ham! |
WT6O
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| I view it as the ARRL has been trying to obtain complete control of the hobby. If it isn't their idea, then it's no good. Years ago, our club was involved in high altitude balloons. When the ARRL found out it was stop or we drop you. No |
KC0ADP
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| w the are promoting it..... |
KC0ADP
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| As an ARRL member I am angry that they will not accept eQSL |
AB0IV
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| Special logging Software for LOTW? No doubt copyrighted by ARRL so guess who gets the money. Hmm, something to think about next time to renew ARRL membership. |
KC0ADP
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| Change is the key to survival. I hope ARRL will survive. 73 Bob AD4MZ |
AD4MZ
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| ARRL's decision to not accept eQSL's system has made me decide to join AMSAT instead of ARRL. I vote with my wallet.... Sorry ARRL, but you need to wake up to the requests of the Amateur community. 73 de Paul, KC4YDY |
KC4YDY
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| Shame they wont accept the Eqsl cards Via internet for reasons of security But the will accept your cash for membership etc.. via the internet |
GM0KBU
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| Sinse when does the ARRL decide what is right for us? Sinse when do the hams not have a voice? eQSL should be accepted, no questions! Just like a card I may send in. IT IS ALL THE SAME! Why is it so hard to see this? |
KC5SDY
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| Until the ARRL stops trying to dicate what hams want, they will NOT see one dime of my money. I have more important things to spend my money on than a membership to an organization that thinks they are the only ones with a voice!!!!!!!!!!!! |
KC5SDY
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| ARRL WILL NEVER ACCEPT EQSL CARDS. WHY? THEY ARE PROTECTING THEIR " CASH COW" LOGBOOK OF THE WORLD THAT WILL (THEY HOPE) BRING IN MORE ARRL MEMBERS AND MORE $$$$$ !!! |
AB7SL
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| The eQSL "AG" certification is a reasonable way to minimize identity fraud. This is a hobby, not a protocol for moving $millions in a wire transfer. ARRL's LOTW seems to offer less than eQSL with more hassle. |
K5CFW
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| The eQSL "AG" certification is a reasonable way to minimize identity fraud. This is a hobby, not a protocol for moving $millions in a wire transfer. ARRL's LOTW seems to offer less than eQSL with more hassle. |
K5CFW
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| THE TIME FOR TACT IS OVER. I HAVE CANCELLED MY ARRL MEMBERSHIP. IF ALL DO SAME ACTION WILL HAPPEN |
K1FAL
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| I'm very dissapointed in the ARRL and their stand on EQSL. Please listen to your members! |
N3CAL
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| I have been a member for 12 years now.I dont know why I keep sending them money just to be dissaponted on silly things as this. This should be a no brainer. This is a HOBBY and should be run like one. Jim/N5QHO |
N5QHO
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| Gostaria de exprimir meu desapontamento com o não reconhecimento do eQSL "AG" como método de confirmação de contatos, como forma de protesto, estou fazendo esta colocação em minha lingua Pátria, para demonstrar o nosso grau de insatisfação |
PY4HI
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| como sta engles si no habla espanole |
(anonymous)
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| I am dissapointed that you do not accept eQSL's, a single system is necessary to get the majority of internet connected amateurs, a competing system is counter productive and the old costly mail system is outdated here in the 21st century. |
N8ZFM
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| ARRL states that security is an issue, anyone can go to a printer make fradulent cards, so what if someone obtains a fradulent certificate, whats it worth to them ! |
N8ZFM
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| Dear old time League Board. Come to reality and accept EQSL, as the times are changing. |
WA6BOB
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| ARRL - as a new ham and ARRL member isn't time we enter the 21st century? eQSL's ARE authenticated. Thank You N5UP! |
KC2JAV
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| ARRL... |
KH7V
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| ARRL... |
KH7V
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| As a member I am suprised and saddened that the ARRL has not even taken the time to ask their membership about the subject of EQSL's. This method is the wave of the future, and more secure than traditional methods. Please reconsider. |
KH7V
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| Let us (the members) vote on this.I do not like the NIH syndrome. 73! |
K1EY
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| I let my league membership expire some time ago. Glad I did. |
N9ESH
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| eQSL should be treated like any other QSL manager... accept QSLs between authenticated users only... eQSL should be allowed to submit qualifying QSLs PERIOD. |
KD7KGX
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| ARRL - Of, by and for the DX HOGs and Contest Jammers. |
(anonymous)
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| So whats the big deal about DXCC anyway? You collected a bunch of post cards. So what? Ever have a non-ham ask what the DX station and you talked about? You say "Your 59, QSL via the bureau." Embarassing, isn't it? |
N9ESH
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| If the old fogies had to learn code at 20 wpm, you have to learn code at 20 wpm. |
N9ESH
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| If the old fogies had to use the bureau, you have to use the bureau. |
N9ESH
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| Your problem is you can't figure out a better way than eQSL.Get modern |
W9RY
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| As a member and a security consultant, I'm very disappointed that the ARRL has decided to not honor eQSLs. Public-key signing of QSLs certainly makes them difficult to forge, but it also creates a very high barrier to entry! |
KG6IYD
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| YOU CAN'T BE TACTFUL WITH A DYNASAUR. SO MAKE THE DYNASAUR EXTINCT. RESIGN FROM HIS BALYWICK.. |
K1FAL
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| Before progress does not have escape, whether this we want whether not. |
SP6EKS
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| I am a new ham and am dissappointed that ARRL will not accept this means of QSL. It appears to me that this is as safe (or safer) than the traditional paper method. Although I joined ARRL soon after receiving my Tech and, I wonder it was? |
KG4TIK
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| The mentality of the ARRL is that If they didn't do it it must be wrong. The message will get to them when the cost of postage effects the number of hams appling for thier awards. |
WD5JNC
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| ARRL: Time to give up the "Not invented here!" attitude. eQSL works. |
N0PU
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| I like to adhere to the fantasy that most hams are honest, decent people with a lot of integrity. When a ham tells me that he's worked some rock in the South Atlantic I'll take him at his word... no need to *prove* it to me. |
VE3DOP
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| What's the ARRL position then? You're all liars until you can prove otherwise? ...... saddens the heart. |
VE3DOP
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| I Qsl for fun! Radio gear cost enough, I dont need postage to! Support EQSL for those who enjoy talking to others for more than just 59, number 123.... |
N9TCD
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| I'm disappointed that our ARRL money is being used to develop the Logbook of the World system, given that the eQSL system is already up-and-running with proven success. Why "reinvent the wheel" at such considerable expense? |
WA6NUT
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| Dear ARRL, at this time I use the eQSL system exclusively. I don't plan to switch to LBOW. Recommend you accept eQSL and, as a loyal ARRL member, I'll buy your plaques. |
N3XL
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| Did anyone learn anything at RSGB 2002 abt LOTW that was a serious update ? I didn't, a waste of a lecture session for me. |
(anonymous)
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| well.. I am not collecting any awards anymore and see ham-radio as a hobby with a great challenge to work DX at unusual frequencies and times. Confirming such a QSO should be enough with an e-mail like message like eQSL. |
SM0FLY
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| so, come on ARRL and stop seeing your funny awards as being of such immense importance. For Chr.. sake, it's a hobby! |
SM0FLY
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| As of today I cancel my ARRL membership until eQSL is accepted. |
(anonymous)
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| I'm a 32 radio amatuer who quit ARRL in 1979 after decisions on the validity of my DXpedition by pinheads that run your organization. After 23 years, I see that things haven't changed. eQSLs are 21st century technolgy. Embrace innovation! |
K8YX
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| I'm a 32 radio amatuer who quit ARRL in 1979 after decisions on the validity of my DXpedition by pinheads that run your organization. After 23 years, I see that things haven't changed. eQSLs are 21st century technolgy. Embrace innovation! |
K8YX
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| The ARRL should read Part 97.1 sub b, c, and e. I think E-QSL is |
KC6RSS
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| The ARRL should read Part 97.1 sub b, c, and e. I think E-QSL is |
KC6RSS
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| The ARRL should read Part 97.1 sub b, c, and e. I think E-QSL is part of the radio art,also if we can QSL to a foriegn country in less than a day and choose to QSL in a year or so how does that promote "Good Will"? Wake up ARRL. |
KC6RSS
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| I am saddened to learn that ARRL has rejected eQSLs and am at a loss to understand why. I can only surmise that the ARRL simply fails to embrace new technologies. The advantages of using eQSL vice paper and postage should be obvious. |
N0QN
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| ARRL yuo no only discrminate eQSL a verry good service but |
ONL3903
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| also SWLs are discriminated whay whats raesen awards as |
ONL3903
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| WAS WAZ DXCC NO AVAIABEL FOR SWLs i belive yuor opinion |
ONL3903
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| from many thinks its tuo old its time for going whait te modern time |
ONL3903
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| if yuo know whats hamspirit its maybi no then lissen to yuor ouwn hams many us stations liked eQSL also hams from autside the USA and olso many SWLs and if yuo know hamspirit then see |
ONL3903
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| also for make aviabel for swl THE WAS WAZ DXCC AND ACCEPT NOW eQSL also |
ONL3903
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| also for make aviabel for swl THE WAS WAZ DXCC AND ACCEPT NOW eQSL also |
ONL3903
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| ARRL member and I like eQSL, a verified card there is as good as gold. ARRL needs to stay up with technology or become totally ineffective as a member organization. SUPPORT eQSL ! |
WD8OUZ
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| I am a paying member of ARRL - if they do NOT want to conform to eQSL they will not get a renewal from me! It is unfair how they treat others. QST is nice - but there are many other magazines to get that are a lot cheaper. |
KC9AOY
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| I have not been a paying member of the ARRL since 1992. The continued inflexabilty of your organization hinders the growth of this wonderful hobby. Get with program and start allowing new methods to help stimulate growth and particpation. |
KA5DWI
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| ALL COMMENTS ABOVE ARE GREAT. MAKE SENSE. ARRL IF YOU ACCEPT eQSL YOUR MEMBERSHIP WOULD SKYROCKET...EVEN I WOULD REJOIN!! |
K1FAL
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| Wake up ! The fixation with the old way of doing things is holding us all back. It's LOOPY !!! Come on , embrace the change, don't resist progress. |
G4HOL
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| ONL3903, GO TO WWW.3905CCC.COM AND THERE YOU CAN PICK UP MANY AWARDS. WE ARE NOT PREJUDICED TO SWL'S AND NEITHER IS eQSL |
(anonymous)
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| The ARRL wants us to use the mail to "obtain a card at no charge". Hey ARRL, have you mailed anything lately?? |
WC2W
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| The ARRL wants us to use the mail to "obtain a card at no charge". Hey ARRL, have you mailed anything lately?? |
WC2W
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| Just checked ARRL on line membership..You dont have to prove your a ham to get full voting rights. Ironic that there is more concern for cheating on DXCC that to cheat in getting a voting membership |
(anonymous)
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| HAVE NO FEAR FELLOW HAMS. THE ARRL IS A MOOT ENTITY. THEIR DAYS ARE NUMBERED |
(anonymous)
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| I think you administrators at arrl had better get your "think tank" working and re- |
K1FAL
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| consider you ancient position and get abreast of the real world!! |
K1FAL
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| before you become a historic event that couldn't stay alive due to stubborness. |
K1FAL
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| Your position is not condusive to common sense. |
K1FAL
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| I urge the ARRL to reconsider. eQSL is a valid and secure means of QSL'ing. You can't ignore the technology. |
N3GNW
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| I will NOT renew ARRL membership until eQSL position is reversed. ARRL is supposed to represent its membership. It no longer represents me with its retrograde notions. |
AF4TF
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| I will NOT renew ARRL membership until eQSL position is reversed. ARRL is supposed to represent its membership. It no longer represents me with its retrograde notions. |
AF4TF
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| I'm a member of the ARRL, and went along with low code, where did it get you? Lets get on board!!!! |
AA7WB
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| I'm a life member of the ARRL and would hope you would reconsider your decision. I like to operate ... I want to QSL, but I never seem to have the time |
K9SO
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| Take a look at How's DX (Oct 2002) es the article "Those Blank Cards" |
KB3FCS
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| eQSL is much faster, cheeper, better! |
KB3FCS
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| I am upset that ARRL is stillworking in THE GOOD OLD DAYS , to date I have over 500.00 in cards that will never be seen by me you mail them out and never get them back . wake up ARRL and go with eqsl |
WB8JHT
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| TO ARRL: Please reconsider recognizing eQSLs towards your awards programs. Consider the following: 1. With eQSL fraud is LESS LIKELY than with paper cards 2. There is virtually NO DIFFERENCE between eQSLs and emailed contest CABRILLO's |
WW3K
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| I have received several dozen eQSL's that are NOT in my log. Clearly the system can be spoofed. I recommend against ARRL accepting eQSL. |
K0HB
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| If their not in your log use the regect button... its that simple. if you accept them your the cheater |
N1MDS
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| that doesnt justify your "I recommend against arrl accepting eQSL" statement. |
N1MDS
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| duuuuhhhhhh!!!!! |
N1MDS
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| Das ist eine RICHTIGE Schande eQSL nicht anzuerkennen! Schließlich ist das Gaslicht auch schon unmodern ! |
OE3JAG
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| K0HB...YOU OBVIOUSLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE THE SYSTEM TRY READING A LITTLE |
(anonymous)
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| OE3JAG, WOULD YOU REPEAT THAT IN ENGLISH. NO SPRAKEN DIETCH PSE |
K1FAL
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| N5TF - eqsl system is just as secure as online payments and many other sites both government and commercial. Any argument presented against this system can also be made against a paper system. At least this system has security codes, etc. |
N5TF
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| The time for being reasonable, begging for reasonable decisions is over. |
(anonymous)
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| It is time for your SAD membership to be brave "profiles in courage" and quit |
(anonymous)
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| your dynasty and leave you in the sand with the rest of the ostriches. you are moot |
(anonymous)
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| antiquated, gerplunked, verbotten, kaput, and pigheaded. I leave you forever. |
(anonymous)
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| Attn: ARRL HQ: Support your membership and accept e-qsls. Not all League members have piles of money to spend on postage.at the current rate of return on cards,most working hams can`t afford DXCC. |
KC7STK/4
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| You can get your lotw off the ground but I will never use it after the way you treated eQSL. |
(anonymous)
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| there is to much unrest going on in the world...merge and bring peace and lets be one happy family |
M3FRH
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| Plain and simple: ARRL, you shold accept QSls from eQSL. This is no threat to the organization, LotW, or the awards system. Work with these guys and make it better for all of us. It would be a great use of our dues! |
N6DBT
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| M3FRH AND N6DBT.. BRAVO AT LEAST SOMEONE HAS COMMON SENSE.. |
WA1ROI
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| A real pity that the ARRL has to take this stand. Eqsl provides a system that smacks of efficiency is automated and as foolproof as the current manual system. Other clubs have the sme attifude (Mine is the RSGB). 21th Centuary? |
G0WJN
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| ( all recieved reply later ) thats the ARRL: |
M3FRH
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| HEY THERE ARRL, HAVE YOU NOTICED A DECLINE IN DOLLARS IN YET..?? YOU WILL!!! THEN WHERE WILL YOU BE?KAPUT, GERPLUNKET, FORGOTTEN, AND ONLY IN THE HISTORY BOOKS. THINK ABOUT IT.. |
(anonymous)
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| Hey !!!!! ARRL .............. We want E-QSL approval. Lets get with the program. |
KE7NT
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| ARRL - As a long-time ARRL member I urge the ARRL to reconsider incorporating the eQSL process. With the high cost associated with standard mailing services we need to take advantage of creative systems that allow us to be more efficient and cost effective. |
KR6E
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| THEY CAN'T GET WITH THE PROGRAM, THEIR HEAD IS STUCK IN THE SAND |
(anonymous)
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| I print all my own QSL cards on a simple PC and cheap printer, if I wanted to I could easily and quickly change details and callsign and forge a QSL--eQSL would be not impossible but more "dangerous" to try-----please reconsider ARRL |
G3LPU
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| I've been forging for years and have 5bwas... ha ha eQSL would prevent that.. |
(anonymous)
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| I urge the ARRL to reconsider. eQSL is a valid and secure means of QSL'ing. You can't ignore the technology.,Hello this is not spark gap days! |
K5HCW
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| Oyes been a ham 35 Years now arrl best take notice!!!!!! |
K5HCW
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| ARRL can't copyright it and can't sell it, that is their problem. |
N5BJ
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| HEY ARRL THANKS FOR THE 5BWAS AND DXCC WITH FORGED CARDS.....JERKS |
(anonymous)
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| IT TOOK A LONG TIME TO MAKE THEM BUT IT WAS WORTH IT. |
(anonymous)
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| I would encourage ALL eQSL users to ALSO post their feelings/comments on the eQSL review on http://www.eham.net and to contact their respective ARRL Section Managers. KEEP THE PRESSURE ON! |
WW3K
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| I've dropped my member ship to the ARRL, not worth it any more |
N6VUJ
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| ANOTHER LOST MEMBER... BYE |
(anonymous)
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| IF YOU ARRL REPS HAVE YOUR ACT TOGETHER YOU BEST HEAD THE MESSAGE OR LOSE YOUR JOB. |
(anonymous)
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| I'VE GOT A LOVELY BUNCH OF AWARDS, AND ALL FORGED YOU DUMMIES |
(anonymous)
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| With current postal rates in some countries and the exchange for a US$ it can cost almost $3 per QSL. Lets get real..we need an alternative to the post office. Bureaus are great but slow. |
VE6ZT
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| I use security envelopes, metered stamps, and no callsigns on an envelope and at least 30% never get through....at $3 each that is a lot of wasted money. Time the ARRL woke up and looked at the advantages of eqsl's |
VE6ZT
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| I use security envelopes, metered stamps, and no callsigns on an envelope and at least 30% never get through....at $3 each that is a lot of wasted money. Time the ARRL woke up and looked at the advantages of eqsl's |
VE6ZT
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| YOU MIGHT GET "LOTW" OFF THE GROUND, BUT WHO REALLY WANTS TO USE A COMMUNIST SYSTEM. JOIN THE REAL WORLD ARRL. |
(anonymous)
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| As a member since 1969 and a life member now, I am disappointed that ARRL does not accept eQSL's. Real DX cards are prohibitively expensive and time consuming. E-QSLs are the future and the future is now. Please reconsider! |
N8WL
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| The ARRL has once again confirmed why I dropped my membership years ago! This eQSL service is a great way to QSL and the ARRL should wake up. |
K4DRW
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| Its unfortunate that jealousy has so many faces. The ARRL won't accept e-QSL's because they are mad someone beat them to, or should I say HAD THE VISION before they did. C'mon ARRL, its time to give in! |
N8YEL
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| Of course - DXCC electronically via Logbook of the World, special logging program, digital certificate = (ARRL) = They get to own eqsling. Not fair! |
VE9TS
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| Of course - DXCC electronically via Logbook of the World, special logging program, digital certificate = (ARRL) = They get to own eqsling. Not fair! |
VE9TS
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| In this day and age of computer use eQSL as well as the Bureau qsl cards should both count! Please reconsider! it can't hurt the ARRL but only help. |
WB2DZH
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| As a Life Member of the ARRL for 20 Years I feel it is time for the organization to get moving on electronic QSL. If it must be by their own system that is fine but eQSL has gone to great lengths to make you happy! |
KK7X
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| I also urge the ARRL to reconsider incorporating the eQSL process. They have gone to great lengths to please the ARRL and have made the process a secure one. Please accept this eQSL service .. Thank You! |
VE9TS
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| eQSL's are more secure then the paper version you can scan in a qsl card and change the information in little time - ARRL Please Change Your Mind! |
M3PHP
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| The ARRL is not user friendly or state of the art . As a life member I want this service approved by ARRL now |
WB3ILM
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| ARRL you are now a moot entity. If you paid me a nickle an entry I would still never use your LOTW. Your position is the reason I have terminated my membership and interest in ARRL |
(anonymous)
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| Fresh ideas can come from places even outside ARRL, guys. Work with them for a solution, you'll br surprised. |
K4MZ
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| I'm a life member of the ARRL and have been licensed over 30 years. I am truely disapointed at the unimaginative position of the League on this matter. |
WA1MKE
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| ARRL announced LOTW some 22 months ago and then... silence except for one snipet about limited testing some 3 months ago. Can they really do it????? |
(anonymous)
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| It's not too late to drag yourself into the modern world, come on ARRL ,bend. |
VE3ARF
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| Not Surprised they've denied. The regular card system is secure? (I've received MULTIPLE cards from some single contacts; one filled in, and others blank "...if anyone else needs one." The current system is rife w/ holes... |
KC2CJW
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| I have 2000 blank cards .. anyone want one to fill out |
WA1ROI
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| eQSL is great ! - do accept it !! |
VE3WQ
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| it's not a suprised from ARRL this organisation need some $$$ It's not an non profits organization too bad but I never send money to ARRL I think the gentleman inside this organisation is too old ! |
VE2QCG
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| Take a few minutes to going inside to the webpage from ARRL and you will notes no informations are free you need to be members if you want to have information about Ham radio I think the Radio Amateur it 's a hobbies not for make some $$$ |
VE2QCG
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| Get with the program ARRL! |
W2KRP
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| eQSL works, and works well. LOTW Beta is a joke in comparison. No reason to reinvent the wheel, particularly not a square one. |
W0RLI
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| would it be different if you guys did not have lotw? who came first Eqsl or lotw?????? |
N5SX
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| Its rather obvious that eQSL came first thats why arrl is so bent out of shape and they live in dark ages |
(anonymous)
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| Absurd ARRL decision, like paper ones cant be forged easier if someone really wanted too. geez arrl, get with it guys! |
KB0NLY
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| Like the dinosaurs, those who fail to adapt to change are doomed to extinction. Get with the times ARRL! |
KQ6IK
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| Thanks to eQSL being licensed for just over one year I have a wall covered with QSL cards! I think ARRL's decision is flat out WRONG! Hang in there eQSL & thanks for the awesome service you provide the HAM radio community worldwide! |
AG4RC
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| I love eQSL and the ARRL both. eQSL is not an authentication authority for the ARRL. If the ARRL doesn't want to accept eQSLs for the ARRL Awards it's OK with me. eQSL has it's own awards and they are just as valuable as the ARRL awards. |
N8XD
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| I have tried the Beta LOTW software. That is more complicated than logging into my bank account through my bank's website! |
KO4BB
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| The saddest part is that the ARRL is probably proud of that fact! |
KO4BB
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| The requirement for landmail QSLs should go the same way the CW reqiurement has gone. |
KX9N
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| eQSL card should be consisdered just as good as printed ones. Lets face it, if someone wants to cheat they will just print their own paper QSL cards. We are talking only of a certificate not something more. |
KH6RY
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| eQSL card should be consisdered just as good as printed ones. Lets face it, if someone wants to cheat they will just print their own paper QSL cards. We are talking only of a certificate not something more. |
KH6RY
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| I'm a ARRL member and I think you are just being hardnoses because someone did some upmanship on you. The e-qsl system in my opinion is more secure than regular qsls. Anyone with a dime a dozen graphic design program can cheat. |
K4JJW
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| I have 3 friends who have numerous blank DX Cards for trade. In about 3 minutes I can confirm more than 25 DX countries I never talked to if I desired. eQSL can’t be cheated like that! |
N4PGW
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| eQSL has one bad setback. Most contacts need to be confirmed by comparing Sent and Received RSTs. eQSL drops the received and does not allow us to compare them for a valid contact. |
N4PGW
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| Not matching sent and received RST disqualifies them from being used in contests or for certain awards. |
N4PGW
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| Electronic QSL's are the future of our hobby. Maybe the future does not include ARRL? Ride the wave my friends and be careful not to get bumped off along the way. Get on board. |
(anonymous)
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| First of all I'm an ARRL member, and I agree with a lot of what they do and their positions, However, in this case I think they have it wrong. Yes, I suppose it may be possible to falsify a qsl card, and indeed probably has been done on |
KD4NDK
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| more than one occasion. But I always do a paper log, and work from that for QSLing, so as to make everything legitimate. That pretty well removes any chance of fakes in my opinion. |
KD4NDK
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| I thihk that that they in ARRL dont know how expensive and dangerous is to send qsl to some countries with 1 or 2 US $ and that mail is lost. NO dollars no qsl...and of course sending cards trought bureau takes minimum 1-2 years... |
9A2KL
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| and finally people in some countries are not enough rich to pay all this satisfaction. I am retired and know how hard is survive. With eqsl it is enoy. I suport you N5UP |
9A2KL
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| I switched my paper logs to the pc ... NOW I am sending ALL my cards via eQSL.cc - there is just no better way! thanks eQSL! |
VE3WQ
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| It is upsetting that the ARRL does not support eQSL.cc. Listen up ARRL, you have to interoperate with other organizations, such as eQSL.cc and step into the present, not the future of eQSL's but the present. |
KB8LFA
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| ARRL was always behind the times and out of touch with hams. |
N2TDT
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| The ARRL better find a way to work with eQSL or it will be out of the award business. We need new leadership at the ARRL to replace the current older style management. It is time to become a world organization. |
KD6IRE
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| The ARRL focus should be to keep the amateur radio hobby fun and to move forward with technology. Instead, by not taking a chance on technology ARRL becomes a road block to the hobby. |
KD6IRE
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| ARRL DXCC? What's that? Never heard of THAT award! Must not be part of the e-qsl system. |
KH6RW
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| Please work with eQSL to develop a process for earning ARRL awards, submitting contest logs, etc. I'm a life member of ARRL. |
NL7EL
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| Here is the answer people...When you work your DXCC requirement just print your own certificate.. It would still mean the same thing as ARRL's money making scheme.. |
K1FAL
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| ARRL Logbook of the Worst? Send a copy of my drivers licence, how do I send a copy aof a credit card type licence? What a no brainer that is... wake up ARRL stop living in the past... |
G8VHB
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| Looks like a duplicate effort.. Why? eQSLs work just fine. |
KL7IPV
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| The ARRL pretends they have all the wisedom in the world, but in fact they are just like the pope who says you may not use condoms. The world will turn backwards with suchs a bureaucratic mind. WE DON'T LIVE IN THE STONEAGES ANYMORE !!! |
ON7BS
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| The ARRL pretends they have all the wisedom in the world, but in fact they are just like the pope who says you may not use condoms. The world will turn backwards with suchs a bureaucratic mind. WE DON'T LIVE IN THE STONEAGES ANYMORE !!! |
ON7BS
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| To hell with eQSL! ARRL's Logbook Of The World ROCKS! |
(anonymous)
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| Can you explain to me where is the diference between a traditional qsl and a e-qsl guaranted by a certificate. . |
F5PRR
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| I'm not an ARRL member, but after seeing the complex mess of LOTW I don't think I'll bother. eQSL is simple and easy by comparison. |
G6FCI
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| I had thought of working towards DXCC, but eDX100 looks just as good to me...I'm probably the only person who will ever see the certificate anyway! |
G6FCI
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| The ARRL should accept eQLSs. |
K6GO
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| I use ARRL primarily for the email address forwarding function, otherwise, I would DIS-OWN them in a heartbeat for their smugness towards eqsl.cc after all, eqsl was FIRST and LBOTW is a DAMN ripoff!!! |
K1NWB
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| Eqsl and ARRL should agree to have a daily/weekly database dump between Eqsl and LOTW, then both organizations stand to profit $$. Then each could profit with the awards and QSL approvals. What a shame they have to compete... |
(anonymous)
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| Hams are pretty much a self governing group. If they can be trusted to goveren themselves, why are they not trusted to use eQSL??? |
KF4YGW
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| Had been working towards DXCC. Now working towards eDX100. That way I get a cert |
EI6AL
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| Had been working towards DXCC. Now woring towards eDX100. That way I get a cert from an organisation that is far more in touch with the spirit of amateur radio - something the ARRL appears to have forgotton. |
EI6AL
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| I got a pack of cards in the post today - the fastest had taken 18 months from date of QSO. Got a bunch of eQSL on the PC, the slowest was 36 hours!. No competition. Bye Bye ARRL. |
(anonymous)
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| LOTW is easy and great. eQSL now asks for my LOTW password to |
W7IUO
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| get certified. I'm not comfortable with this. Why is it taking so long to get |
W7IUO
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| the LOTW awards going. There are nice QSLs for me on eQSL that I |
W7IUO
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| would like to see on LOTW. There should be a way for both |
W7IUO
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| would like to see on LOTW. There should be a way for both |
W7IUO
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| ARRL - Please reconsider. eQSL is secure. |
N1ZHE
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| As an ARRL life member, I am very disappointed. It is time to move into and recognize new technologies. If the early pioneers of our hobby had the same mind-set, where would amateur radio be today? It's time to get some new, younger peop |
WB8JUI
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| le involved in the ARRL! Without change and new technologies, our hobby will not survive. |
WB8JUI
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| There is NO REAL reasons the ARRL should not support E-QSL - Please do so now. Thank You! |
(anonymous)
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| Not recognizing eQSL is yet another reason for me not to join ARRL. |
KD5FID
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| eBanks and eCommerce process billions of dollars on the internet without problems. Why does the ARRL think QSO data is more vulnerable to hackers than money? I think eQSL is a great service in the true spirit or our hobby. |
W2XYZ
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| No excuse for the ARRL not to support eQSL! This is the second major disappointment to me by the league. If I wasn't a Life Member, I wouldn't renew. |
N4ARI
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| One of the ARRLs unilateral decisions was the incentive license issue. I did not like it then, don't like it now, and don't like them making decisions effecting the membership at large without a vote.Let's vote on the eQSL issue. |
WA4EWV
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| Its simple.. the ARRL wants you to use their data base and charge you 25 cents per qsl used for credit towards an award.They aren't getting the 25 cents from eqsl.cc... Thats why they won't use eqsls. Follow the money. |
K1KOB
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| ARRL - it is all we have for lobbying. Guess ya gotta support 'em. But sheesh, c'mon ARRL guys - time to change that old paradigm! |
(anonymous)
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| I'll be just as proud of a WAS or DXCC from eQSL as from ARRL |
N4WYR
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| why ARRL won't use eqsls? Follow the money. They don't make any with eQSL. I thought ARRL was for the hams not to make some few rich. |
AF7W
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| It's pretty bad when the FCC trusts you more than the ARRL does. After all, it's JUST a piece of paper. |
KB9ERU
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| If I didn't know any better, I would think that not only the ARRL, but other organisations around the globe were in league with their individual nation's post offices. Postage has long been a ripoff and the buro is hopeless. |
VK7BBW
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| If I didn't know any better, I would think that not only the ARRL, but other organisations around the globe were in league with their individual nation's post offices. Postage has long been a ripoff and the buro is hopeless. |
VK7BBW
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| Is the ARRL ever going to realise that a vast majority of hams are on a fixed income and cannot affort direct qsling ? |
VK7BBW
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| The time for eQSLs has come. Eventually, the ARRL will join. |
N0KBD
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| Just wait until amateurs, contest stations and dx peditions only use LoTW and do'nt acknowledge paper qsl's, then amateurs cannot get conformations out of LoTW for there own award interests = annoyed and frustrated amateurs |
(anonymous)
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| One more reason to continue my boycott of the ARRL. |
AD6FR
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| ARRL = NRA <-- lost touch with the average person |
(anonymous)
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| I joined ARRL Nov. 19, 1958 - I dropped out in the 60's (no time/place for ham radio). I rejoined in the early 70's and dropped back out. The ARRL's interest is $$$ not the hobby!!! Respond to our needs and I will rejoin. |
W4LQJ
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| I WAS GOING TO JOIN THE ARRL BUT NOW WHATS THE POINT. JUST ANOTHER THING THE ARRL DID TO MAKE ME LOOK DOWN ON THEM. YOU NEED TO WAKE UP ARRL, YOUR LOSSING MEMBERS FAST BECAUSE OF YOUR ACTIONS |
KG4WHL
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| They are just Mad they didn't think of it first.........73 |
KB5VJY
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| Once again the ARRL has put cash flow ahead of common sense and Ham's best interests. Not recognizing E-QSL's REEKs of self interest! Wake up ARRL! Don't you don't get it? Ham's are dumping thier membership. Stop being so self-serving! |
K2ESE
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| LOTW - Looks like a duplicate effort.. Why? eQSLs work just fine. |
KC0NNT
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| Freedom of expression and thought on new ideas! We should all remember what a great hobby and country we have that supports our freedoms to say what we want , arrl as you all have noticed started there own system to try to keep up! |
N8ERV
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| but the real question is do they really have the ear of the ham community now or have they lost touch with the hobby to some degree. Dxcc is the arrl's game so they do have the right to make the rules to there own game. |
N8ERV
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| I also was a member of the arrl but it got most expensive to continue on with a membership and the publications seem to become more and more techinical too. Eqsl keep up the good work ! |
N8ERV
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| Are we as Hams not on the honor system? eQSL is fast and efficient. It is no different than using the post office. |
K5YDD
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| ARRL, what´s the problem not accepting eQSL? We are living in 2004 and new technic and way of communication is a reality! Think twice and accept that. I hope the reason for not accepting this don´t have any fear for the staff loosing jobs.. |
SM5BCF
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| It appears that ARRL was and is afraid of competition, as intricate and silly as LOTW |
KE9PH
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| ARRL: I encourage you to reconsider and accept eQSL as a practical alternative to hard-card mailings and postage. It is as secure a method as any other currently in use. Please don't reject eQSL because it "wasn't invented here." |
4U/KC0PA
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| I am an ARRL member and would like them to explain why, in an article in QST, they refuse to accept eQSL confirmations. |
4U/KC0PA
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| if and when you work the W1AW just eQSL the contact, and ask if this will be confirmed by a paper card, come on guys wake up and smell the coffee |
G0MPR
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| Just because the ARRL didnt think of this idea first they dont approve, now they have come out with LOTW, who is stealing who's ideas here, the ARRL is just like the RSGB, only interested in making money from people who enjoy this hobby |
(anonymous)
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| How about it ARRL? Get off the hog and accept eQSL's! |
WM5Z
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| We are in the Digital Age...Let Internet and Wavelengths Merge |
VA3PGS
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| please dont reject eqsl just because you didn't think of it first. |
WA5K
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| when so many request direct qsls - costly in postage :( - eqsl gives a viable low cost alternative - so why reject it? Anyone sad enough to cheat will do it anyway by printing their own QSLs and submitting them - eQSL is much more secure. |
G6CVX
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| ARRL says "Promote the hobby" then wants to control all aspects of promoting. |
KI6LO
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| So much for intercompatibility and cohesiveness between organizations. No wonder ham radio is dying!!!! |
KI6LO
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| ARRL's LOTW is quite complicated and requires a effort on part of the user. eQSL is like falling of a log. Easy to use and efficient too. |
KI6LO
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| I registered with LOTW shortly after it started. I am very dissapointed with number of qsl's being credited. I thought our goal was to increase DXCC activity. How can you say that a signed card is more authentic that a copy of your license? |
KF8PD
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| Probably any one of use that wanted to, could create a qsl card and make it look authentic. I believe that anyone forging, or altering a card for credit, is only hurting themself. If someone wants to do it illegally, they will find a way. |
KF8PD
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| I feel the ARRL is resistant to change, and is trying to save face in the matter. Don't wait till you loose more members, before choosing to honor the EQSL cards. Your only hurting yourself! |
KF8PD
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| it looks like a dictum, our way or not at all. But what do you expect from a self-seeking establishment. who cares which logo is on their award. |
(anonymous)
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| i'm looking a the list of organisations accepting eqsls, and see that the two dinasaurs of amateur radio are missing, the arrl and the rsgb. nuff said!!! |
(anonymous)
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| eQSL is very good service congratulation N5UP Dave Morris for your very good work |
FO5RJ
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| If you are an ARRL member, have you asked director candidates about their position on eqsl? Directors who might loose their job is how you pressure the ARRL. They don't care about nonmembers. |
WA1MKE
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| I just signed up for eqsl (free). Put $5 in a postage account using paypal. Donated more to become a bronze member to put my photo on the eqsl card. Decisions like these have kept me from arrl membership since I was licensed in 1994. |
KD4SIR
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| Please re-consider your decision |
N3HU
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| I wonder if the ARRL is even considering the changing needs of the general ham population. We are a group that embraces new technology and it is time to move on. IT also seems that the ARRL is trying to control and own the entire QSL proces |
N3KMG
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| Even though it is their awards and need control for validaty they should not limit our enjoyment of the hobby. This is a good alternitave to out dated thinking and move on. There is a reason I quit the ARRL! |
N3KMG
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| This is a hobby. No one is running for president here! eQSL's are as valid as receiving a card in the mail. I believe the real reason you don't accept it, is because you are looking for another way or raising $$$$$$!! |
N2FPB
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| As a life member, I am upset that the ARRL does not have the vision to see the future. Their decision is only self serving. I feel that an award from eQSL will have more meaning and value to me. |
K9IGU
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| ARRL, please come out of the dark ages and enter the 21st century. The e-qsl service is the best service around and it is a pity that you have chosen to ignore this service |
W6LEN
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| If the ARRL is a democratic organisation, the members of ARRL should attend at the annual meeting and vote for the acceptance of e-QSL. After all, ARRL is ours, not the board of directors. (CU2JT, ARRL member) |
CU2JT
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| There is no difference between the ARRL´s LoTW and the electronic QSL cards issued via eQSL.cc. The whole thing is that ARRL doesn´t make one single penny from eQSL.cc! |
LA2MOA/QRP
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| eQSL is a superb idea and a great program. Why not just get aboard and forget about the small nick in your power base? The alternative could be a bigger lose. You could end up loosing a lot more! |
WN4DW
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